Nathaniel Pyne

Nathaniel Pyne

b:
d: 1725
Biography
From 'The James, Pyne, Dixon Family Book' - the Reminiscences of Edith Elizabeth Chaplin (nee Pyne), 1913:

"The first Pyne of whom there is any mention was a 'Herbert de Pine' who, in the time of Henry I, held land at Upton Pyne, near Exeter. He proved a vigorous stock, handing down Upton Pyne for some 400 years in lineal male descendants and sending numerous shoots branching out from the district where Devon, Dorset and Somerset meet. His descendants still own the property of 'Pynes', which has been carried by a succession of heiresses into the Northcote family. The first of these heiresses was Constance Pyne, who married William Larder about the end of the fifteenth century; the last was Bridget Stafford, whose name reappears in that of the late Sir Stafford Northcote, who quarter the Pyne arms - Gules, a chevron argent between three pinecones, or - with those of the Northcotes.

The Pynes seem to have been for some centuries a prolific and successful family; they gave their name to the villages of Upton Pyne, Comb or Culm Pyne and Washford Pyne. The name occurs in various lists and rolls; Ralph Pine held the Manor of Ilrington by Knight's fee in the time of Edward II, Thomas d'Pyne is mentioned in R. Glover's Roll of Arms of the reign of Henry III, as bearing the same arms as those taken by Constance Pyne into the Northcote family.

In the 16th and 17th centuries, therewere several families of Pyne settled in the West Country and so far differentiated from the original stock as to have slight modifications in their coats of arms, at any rate in their descriptions of them. The parent family at Upton Pyne retain the expression 'pine-cones', the term 'pine-apples' being substituted for it in several of the other branches. Among these branches was Andrew Pine of Stawell in Somerset, son of George Pine of East Down. George Pine was the ancestor of the Pine-Coffin family, settled for many generations at East Down in Comwall.

Captain Hercules Pyne successfully held the town of Lyme Regis for the Parliament during the Civil War. John Pyne is mentioned in the Somersetshire Archaeological Society's Transactions as being arrested in 1661, with Colonel William Strode, the Colonel 'for refusing to obey the orders of the Deputy Lieutenant for Somerset', and John Pyne Esq. for disaffection and contempt of authority; 'to keep Mr. Pyne in jail until H. M.'s pleasure should be signified regarding them.' Col. Strode later made his submission; history is silent about John Pyne. Hutching's history of Dorset mentions a stone in Wootton Glanvill Church: 'Here lieth the body of John Pine, gent, who died 9th October 1643; ut umbra sic vita'; on another: 'Here lieth Ursula Pine wife to J. Pine died 30th Novr. 1639.' It is a curious coincidence that the uncommon names of Juliana and Ursula as well as that of Constance are all borne by present-day descendants of the Pynes.

In Charlton Mackarell Church under the chancel floor are buried Eleanor, daughter, and Charles and Arthur, twins, sons of John Pyne and Mary his wife. They died in their infancy. This entry is of interest, though undated. The family of Pyne in my childhood (about 1852) were settled at Charlton Mackarell. I remember playing with the children of that family when on a visit to the Vicarage of Charlton Adam, where my Father's sister, Elizabeth, was living, the wife of John Barney, the then Vicar of Charlton Adam. The present representatives of the Charlton Mackarell family still owned property at Curry Mallet in 1912 but apparently there was only one holder of the name, an old Miss Pyne, living at Charlton Mackarell, whose sister had married a Mr. Thomas, now residing at Hatch Beauchamp and owning old Pyne property at Curry Mallet.

I remember once talking to my Father about our family and the part they had taken in the Civil Wars and his telling me we had taken the parliamentary side. He said the Pynes of Charlton Mackarell had always looked on us as a branch of their family and it was historically known that they had taken that side. On another occasion he told me he had once traced back his family through a series of wills, to the time of Queen Elizabeth, when they owned a farm which they cultivated. But I was young at the time and never enquired whereabouts the 'farm' was. There is every probability, however, that the 'farm' was the property now in possession of the Wyndham family. It is still called 'Cathanger' in Fivehead, a parish near Langport, Somerset.

An old genealogy of 'Pyne of Cathanger in Fivehead' shows the connection between the Pynes of Cathanger and the Pynes of Curry Mallet. Richard Pyne, who married Alice, heiress of R. Percy of Shaftcsbury, must have been settled in Cathanger in the 15th century and the property descended lineally to John Pyne who, with his wife Juliana, is buried in Curry Mallet church. 'The monument in that church to John and his wife Juliana was erected by his son, Hugh Pyne, of Lincoln's Inn. Hugh was the father of Christabella Pyne, the Mrs. Wyndham who figures not very becomingly in the pages of Clarendon, as having been wet nurse to Charlcs II and taking advantage of her position to advance her family. She married Sir Edmund Wyndham of Knutsford, who was governor of Bridgwater, when it war besieged by Fairfax, and must have succeeded in appropriating the property of Cathanger. Perhaps the fact that her husband was a Royalist while her male relatives were mostly Parliamentarians, helped her in the matter. Cathanger remains to this day in the possession of the Wyndhams and is now used as a farm, like so many other small properties."
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MNathaniel Pyne
Birth
Death1725
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Family Group Sheet - Spouse
PARENT (M) Nathaniel Pyne
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Death1725
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PARENT (F) Grace?
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MJohn Pyne
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Marriage1702to Joane Chappel
MRobert Pyne
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FMargaret Pyne
Birth1686
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MChristopher Pyne
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Descendancy Chart
Nathaniel Pyne d: 1725
Grace? d: 1727
John Pyne d: 1741
Nathaniel Pyne b: 1706
John Pyne b: 1732 d: 1810
Betty Webber b: 1736 d: 1799
John Pyne b: 1774 d: 1853
Hannah White Rawlins b: 1785 d: 1817
Henry Pyne b: 2 JAN 1809 d: 9 FEB 1885
Harriet James b: 25 DEC 1819 d: 13 MAR 1895
Edith Elizabeth Pyne b: 28 SEP 1845 d: 1928
Ayrton Chaplin , Rev b: 19 OCT 1842 d: 1930
Ursula (Ulla) Chaplin , M.D. b: 30 NOV 1869 d: 1937
Adriana (Audrey) Chaplin b: 26 APR 1872 d: 15 DEC 1945
Ursula Joan Gregory b: 29 JUL 1896 d: 17 JUL 1959
Christopher John (Kit) Gregory b: 11 JUL 1900 d: 1977
Marion Eastty Black b: 3 MAY 1902 d: AUG 1998
10 Elizabeth Gregory b: 22 OCT 1933 d: 1938
Henry Ayrton Chaplin , L.R.C.P. & S. b: 21 AUG 1876 d: 2 JUL 1905
Mary Juliana Pyne b: 17 FEB 1841 d: 1927
Alice Pyne b: 21 OCT 1843 d: 1917
John Granville Grenfell b: 1839 d: 1937
Bernard Pyne Grenfell b: 16 DEC 1869 d: 1925
Edward Lionel Grenfell b: 9 MAY 1873 d: 20 SEP 1874
Helen Sophia Pyne b: 27 MAY 1844 d: 1931
Edward Frederick Grenfell b: 1841 d: 29 DEC 1870
Arthur Pascoe Grenfell b: 24 APR 1868 d: 25 NOV 1932
Harold Granville Grenfell b: DEC 1869 d: 29 FEB 1948
Allen Dowdeswell Graham b: 1837 d: 10 JUL 1905
Irene Marguerite Graham b: AUG 1881 d: JUL 1897
George Roland Graham b: 17 APR 1884 d: 17 MAR 1905
Helen Muriel Graham b: JUN 1880 d: 1916
Harriet Pyne b: 22 AUG 1847 d: 1929
Frederick Henvey , I.C.S b: 1842 d: 1913
Margaret Henvey , O B E b: 1868 d: 1946
Mary Isobel (Molly) Ramsay b: 29 JAN 1894 d: 1970
Victor Wellesley Roche , Col b: 1889 d: 1970
William Henvey b: 21 JUN 1867 d: 11 JAN 1904
Mary Duffield d: 1897
Frederick Charles Henvey b: 7 AUG 1870 d: 10 DEC 1891
Isabel Henvey b: 19 AUG 1872 d: 1925
Katherine Mary Henvey b: 19 MAR 1873 d: 1960
Ralph Henvey , Col b: 3 JAN 1875 d: 1945
Constance Pyne b: 2 APR 1851 d: 1929
Jervoise Athelstane Baines , K.C.S.I. b: 17 OCT 1847 d: 26 NOV 1925
Sylvia Baines b: 29 SEP 1875 d: 14 JUL 1941
Philip Edward Percival , ICS b: 11 NOV 1872 d: 1939
Alicia Constance Percival b: 13 MAY 1903
David Athelstane Percival b: 29 MAY 1906
Cuthbert Edward Baines b: 12 JUN 1879 d: 1959
Margaret Clemency Lane Poole b: 6 APR 1886 d: 1945
Anthony Cuthbert Baines b: 6 OCT 1912
Elizabeth Eularia Baines b: 4 MAY 1914 d: 1970
Cyril Clarke d: 1975
Elizabeth Rawlins Pyne b: 1807 d: 1883
William Pyne b: 1812 d: 1880
Mary Pyne b: 1813 d: 1865
William King d: 1880
Anne Pyne b: 1814 d: 1890
Thomas Pyne b: 1740 d: 1790
John Pyne b: 1704
William Pyne b: 1708
Charles Pyne b: 1710
Robert Pyne b: 1687
Margaret Pyne b: 1686